8/28/2023 0 Comments New discovery channel shows![]() ![]() But there are places where the travel has to be managed. Now you can go to the airport, buy a ticket and board a flight to almost anywhere in the world. A hundred years ago, we were at the dawn of aviation. But I also think we’re in a golden age of travel, a democratization. I sometimes worry about the impact of cruise ships, huge footprints, travel companies coming into islands in remote destinations with large numbers of tourists. Gates: I’m not sure it’s over-commercialized. I don’t even want to see this.”Ĭlash: Many argue, including myself, that adventure has become so commercialized that there are negative consequences. The mast was underneath the swells! You just go, “Uh, I’m going back down below. ![]() When we sailed down to Antarctica in a steel-hull sailboat, I came up to the deck and couldn’t see the horizon. Gates: I’ve done so many trips and expeditions, and all of the ones that stick to my ribs are the hard ones. Even if you’re going on vacation, say to Cancun, and I’m all for that, take some part of your trip and get that Jeep into the interior of the Yucatan, something you’re a little unsure of, or maybe volunteer at a site.Ĭlash: Have you had any close calls yourself? They’re going to tell you about a calamity, the time a tire came off of the Jeep in the rain. If you ask people what’s their most powerful travel memory, they’re almost never going to tell you when they sat on a beach. That said, it’s good for all of us to be outside of our comfort zones. There are times when I’ve been on a rope, and really uncomfortable. I do a lot of climbing on my shows, rapeling into chasms and caves. Gates: I don’t particularly like heights. (Photo by Sean Gallup/Getty Images) Getty ImagesĬlash: Other than public speaking, what are you afraid of? Zermatt and the Matterhorn are among Switzerland's major tourist destinations. Matterhorn in the morning of Decemin Zermatt, Switzerland. ZERMATT, SWITZERLAND - DECEMBER 24: Light from the rising sun catches the eastern face of the. When you’re confident about something and good at it, there’s a satisfaction in that. How much fear do I have, what’s my profile here, what do I do if this breaks, or if I slip? It’s like astronauts and pilots, they’re always so cool under pressure because they’re not in their heads but in the moment, their training, their expertise. When you’re doing something that’s potentially dangerous, say climbing a mountain or scuba-diving a wreck, your focus needs to be on your safety. Sometimes our minds are dangerous places to be. To me, fear management means not living in your head. I speak a lot in front of big groups, and still feel sick to my stomach 10 seconds before I walk on stage. People who pretend they’re not afraid are either lying or crazy. ![]() For as many expeditions as I’ve been on, I still have fear. Certainly with people like John Glenn, that was true, right?Ĭlash: Okay, what are you afraid of and how do you handle fear? The results of not knowing could mean life or death. You’re going to make predictions, buy supplies, hire the right people for your crew, but you don’t really know what’s going to happen. By its very nature, exploration involves mystery, whether you’re trying to map a river, study a new cancer drug, whatever. It’s also about being willing to walk into the unknown, step into darkness, at least for me. Josh Gates: I think the curiosity part is right. Both immediately and independently said, “Curiosity in action,’’ a phrase originated by diver Don Walsh. John Glenn and filmmaker/diver James Cameron, both EC members, what their definitions of exploration were. Jim Clash: Years ago on my interview series at the EC, I asked the late Sen.
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